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قديم 31-05-2008, 02:41 PM   #1
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Mill-part 2


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ممكن أحد يتكرم ويشرح لي نظريتين لMill صفحة 11 بلوك 4
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قديم 31-05-2008, 04:29 PM   #2
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افتراضي رد: Mill



Mills mentioned two theories of the social position of manual workers



ميل يملك نظريتين لطبيعة العمال مع اصحاب العمل في المجتمع


The first theory :: is that there is a natural dependence of working people on those who employed them. Similar to that of children on their parents, according to this theory there are appropriate duties on each side, workers should be obedient and grateful, and the employers should protect their worker’s interests.


النظرية الاولى تتحدث عن طبيعة العلاقة بين العمال واصحاب العمل التي يجب ان تقوم على اساس واضح وهو ان يكن هناك التزام لكل جانب العمال يطيعوا اصحاب العمل دون اجر ولا حقوق ومقابل هذا يتوجب على اصحاب العمل حماية ورعاية العمال


The second theory :: is that of self-dependence which allow workers to be the judges of their own intersects and to relate to their employers on the basis of equality


النظريه الثانيه التي تقوم على اساس ان يكون هناك مساواة بين كلا الطرفين ويجب ان يحصل العامل على جميع حقوقه من صاحب العمل


Mill preferred the second theory, he regard the distinction of classes as having ‘no necessary or permanent’ status and certainly as without any morals basis, he stresses that the paternal theory was increasingly out of touch with social realities. There was no reason for working men to regard their employers as ‘protectors’ while their employers needed to be protected. The poor would refuse to be deferring to the rich as education was spread amongst them.

Mill sees the extension of franchise (the right to vote) as an expected consequence of the greater self-dependence of the working class. He is cautious about how soon the vote should be given. It could be given to early, but it is something that will come and mill is broadly optimistic about the outcomes. Assuming that the independence is matched by education.

Mills theory representing his view point only, paternal view which mill opposed was still widely held by aristocracy and social hierarchy.
Mill never doubted that the paternal view was entirely appropriate to ordering of British dependencies.
For mill, self-dependence was a fruit of social progress and depended critically on improvement in education. A paternal view will never be justified only under special circumstance.



ميل يفضل النظريه التانيه لانها تقوم على العدالة والمساواة ولا يجب ان يكون هناك استعباد او ظلم

ويحذر ميل من النظريه الاولى لان فيها ظلم واضظهاد لحقوق العمال



بتمنى اكون قدرت اشرح اللي فاهمتو

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قديم 31-05-2009, 12:31 PM   #3
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The word democracy is a tricky one and it is important to bear in mind that it meant different things to different people in the nineteenth century just as it does today
Mill as we shall see was not an unqualified enthusiast for greater democracy his ideal of true democracy would not be realized simply by allowing the vote to all adults . bentham on the other hand , was an advocate of ultra-democracy and here as in matters

Utilitarians believe that what makes an act morally right is the fact that it leads to the best consequences. In contrast, according to most traditional codes, such as the Ten Commandments, acting morally involves following certain principles, even when doing so leads to bad effects. Utilitarians wanted to replace such a strict attachment to rules with a flexible code that allowed people to perform whatever act would have the best results.
Some utilitarians differ in their beliefs about what makes results good or bad. Bentham believed that only pleasure or happiness is good in itself, while pain or unhappiness is the only basic evil. The right act produced the greatest happiness for the greatest number. Other utilitarians claim that other things besides pleasure are good, such as knowledge, love, and freedom.
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قديم 01-06-2009, 09:37 PM   #4
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افتراضي رد: سؤال بليز


السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
في البداية بحب اشكر الاخت بنت الشرق والاخت اي ستل
هادي الاجابة نسختها لاني ما بعرف احمل اشي عالمنتدى اتفضلي
Question Three (17 marks) (60 minutes)

Discuss John Stuart Mill’s views on voting in a democracy.

Suggested Answer and Marking Emphasis:

Important points which should be addressed in the students’ answers:

*graduated suffrage or plural voting
*Mill’s emphasis on education
*voting is contingent upon education, and not social class (i.e. this is not
an eternal condition).

John Stuart Mill’s views on voting may be considered conservative by those who believe in “universal suffrage.” Mill feared the “tyranny of the majority,” those “alike in biases, prepossessions, and general modes of thinking.” Universal suffrage, as Mill believes, would allow for the establishment of class government, which would rule in a false democracy. Mill had doubts about granting the working class political power by means of suffrage. The working class, as Mill believes, was not equipped with the adequate educational background to allow them to make reasoned judgements in a “true democracy.”

Therefore, Mill places great emphasis on education because it is the educated man or woman who can make a reasoned decision, and such decisions constitute the foundations of a true democracy. This can be achieved through the concept of “graduated suffrage,” which means that some people would be allowed more than one vote. Mill argues that the main objective of “plural voting” is to “assign education, as such, the degree of superior influence due to it.” This, however, does not mean that Mill excludes certain sectors of society from voting, but it does mean that some groups would, by virtue of their education and social and political awareness, be more “equal” than other groups. Some have accused Mill of creating a new kind of paternalism since in place of the aristocracy, Mill would allow for the birth of a “meritocracy,” so to speak.

Having said the above, it is only fair to argue that Mill’s meritocracy is not an eternal phenomenon. When women or the poor reach a certain degree of education that would allow them to make reasoned decisions, they too would qualify for plural voting. Mill’s belief in the extension of education in his “ideal” democracy would, it seems put an end to plural voting, which in time would become unnecessary.

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قديم 25-01-2010, 08:18 AM   #5
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افتراضي رد: نقاش Mill


هذا الموضوع فقط لاضافة شرح لنظرية Mill

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قديم 28-04-2010, 12:24 PM   #6
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